Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
Posted Sun Jun 3, 2007 4:58 pm
Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
They say that its because it smells 400X more. But i never saw a nose on a fish.
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Posted Wed Jun 6, 2007 2:38 pm
Re:Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
Scants and texture make all the difference
Musky
Posted Wed Jun 6, 2007 5:41 pm
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dont I know you from somewhere.......
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Posted Thu Jun 7, 2007 6:26 am
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Don't you know???? Brand Name Value! Berkely makes them. And they are called GULP!!! That just has to be good tasting. The fish know that. It's not because they smell 400X stronger.(thats just to make our wives mad when we leave them in the car) And the colors are wonderful! They are exactly the same as the colors that we have been throwing at them for 100 years. If you were a fish--wouldn't you want to eat The GULP!
Sorry man,,,I can only make fun because I probably have $200.00 worth in my tackle box.
Sorry man,,,I can only make fun because I probably have $200.00 worth in my tackle box.
snookin
Posted Fri Sep 4, 2009 9:40 pm
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they cant taste better. have you ever tried one? they are disgusting. long story how i wound up with one in my mouth, but they are gross. but i will throw a gulp everytime. love em.
Tight Lines
Posted Sat Jun 9, 2007 8:19 pm
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Because Bob Izumi says so?? Actually I like it, I just wish it didn't dry out so quickly. Pretty pricy when you have to buy new bags every spring.
Posted Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:11 am
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Definately works better than hand poured plastics - I just wish they were a little more durable.
My new catch phrase - 1 fish, one goby - lol. Gets pricey when you hit a school of dinks!
Jack
My new catch phrase - 1 fish, one goby - lol. Gets pricey when you hit a school of dinks!
Jack
Jack
Posted Wed Sep 5, 2007 12:38 pm
Re:Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
I prefer live bait. Cheaper and seems to do the same tricks.
Posted Tue Oct 9, 2007 7:50 am
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it isnt better than a regular plastic. never caught a darn thing on them yet.
Always fish like its the last day of your life...
Posted Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:33 pm
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You have to trust the bait you fish with, or you will never catch!
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Posted Tue Dec 2, 2008 6:51 pm
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Gulp Baits definitely work, and they work better. Its proven. You can fish gulp baits like live shrimp. That's why I do not use them. They are like cheating.
I only use them to cut up in to pieces and fish for Pinfish.
I only use them to cut up in to pieces and fish for Pinfish.
Just Fish.
Posted Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:27 pm
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lol... NOW YOU ALL KNOW WHY I DON'T CARRY GULP! When it comes to plastics, I carry Gary Yamamoto & Boneyard Baits. And no... neither of them stink!
Cutthroat
Posted Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:44 pm
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You know I have been going through a lot of BPS tubes lately.
Surprisingly AMAZING
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&partNumber=7547&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults
Dark Mellon/Purple
Surprisingly AMAZING
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&partNumber=7547&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults
Dark Mellon/Purple
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Posted Fri Sep 4, 2009 9:43 pm
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my buddy uses only Gary Yamamoto's. he wont tuch my gulp. even when im outfishing him.
Tight Lines
Posted Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:07 pm
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i am more of a fan of the super soft plastics, like terminator snapback, or the strike king 3X series. they are extreamly soft and last for many fish!!! i cant MAKE bass drop em:)
jeremy anibas
Posted Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:12 am
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Bassdominator has it right, you have to trust the baits you fish. If I could only have one plastic in my boat it would be a 3" Mister Twister in white, the price is right and they are durable. I use them on jigs for Walleye and Smallies and use them as trailers on bucktails and spinnerbaits for Pike and Muskie. If anything the scented baits give those that are not paying attention a couple extra seconds to react, and they also give you an edge when fishing coldfront fish, in that situation I have made a trend back to live bait. I fish everyday and I can honestly tell you that in most situations nothing beats a well presented livebait.
Posted Tue Dec 2, 2008 10:26 am
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Gulp is a very good product. However just like every other soft plastics product line. Some of the product line is better then others. That's the same for any soft plastics company. I use a lot of Gulp from time to time. And always have it in my boat. However, some certain Gulp plastics I find too hard, some are soft, some dry up etc.. I work with these products all day everyday. And it seems only certain colors or models get harder then others. Must be the coloration or something.
But I truly believe that all baits work, its the angler who makes them successful, not the fish! Its how you present your bait to the fish. I hope we all know by now that not all fish bite because they're hungry! A Lot of its reaction, if you get the fish to react you've been successful. Its how the angler presents the bait on every cast that will make the difference!
But I truly believe that all baits work, its the angler who makes them successful, not the fish! Its how you present your bait to the fish. I hope we all know by now that not all fish bite because they're hungry! A Lot of its reaction, if you get the fish to react you've been successful. Its how the angler presents the bait on every cast that will make the difference!
I dont fish to live! I live to fish!
Posted Wed Dec 3, 2008 12:35 pm
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Theres a new soft plastic that will hit the states in 2009. I have used the prototype and it out fishes anything ive ever used. They have a spray that stinks like hell and works awsome!
Posted Fri Dec 5, 2008 4:13 am
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I like the Gulp sinking minnows. I caught a lot of bass with them this year.
Posted Sat Dec 6, 2008 6:39 pm
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yea they say that but ive never seen a fishs nose but i like how gulp looks in the water
Posted Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:18 pm
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Gulp shines in the winter time;in the summer(saltwater)Piggy Perch wont leave it alone.Gulp maggots are ALWAYS tipped on my jigs for crappie.
Cole
Posted Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:15 pm
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fish do have nostrils and pores under their bottom lip what would be our chin take notice..and bass alot of the time actually hit the lure the 1st time and not bite it just kinda tasting smelling and feeling it ..they hit it like a dolphin would a shark this would also stun it..if it is in the fishes liking it will come back around and eat it...so scent is big I spray all my lures with scents like yum,gulp alive(crawfish) anything really .we excrete hormones and scents that some fish find repulsive like deet and tobacco..so spray rub dip whatever you use scent it..and different scents for different fish...bass love crawfish smell..lakers love garlic...I love the smell of the lake in the morning...so remember scents are big could be the difference btween seeing fish or catching them......and I can outfish anyone using regular plastics against my scented wacky worms and gulps are great but i generally use yum dingers(the are softer and more durable the gulps get killed by the fish ... fish on
fish on...
Posted Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:51 pm
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In my experience, live bait kills gulp 9 times out of 10. The places I fish always have some available nearby.
Funny story, an outfitter I go to every summer has a rooster running around, last year it came into his office and started eating the gulp worms from an open pack.
Funny story, an outfitter I go to every summer has a rooster running around, last year it came into his office and started eating the gulp worms from an open pack.
Freshwaterphil.com
Posted Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:41 pm
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i don't like to fish gulp all the time just because of the smell and it rips easily but when i find a big female bass sitting on a nest nothing pulls her off like a gulp worm or jig trailer you can see a difference in the two also i like that it is biodegradable... 1 less fish with plastic in it's stomach for ever
Save me a seat!
Posted Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:53 am
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why are we fishing bass nests??????they are spawning and should be left alone...everytime you take them off the nest damage is done...in canada we are not even allowed to fish nests..ethically and morally it is wrong and damaging to your echo system...why does america let anglers even do it. crappie are open and panfish are less effected by fishing and harvesting..also there are so many species to fish for??? In Canada we protect our fish catch and release is big here...and this is probably why Ontario is the majority on the leaderboard on most smallmouth weeks and many other fish....in turn not fishing the nests and taking time to learn to catch a different species,it will make you a more knowledgable,versatile and better angler (would you torment a pregnant lady) so ethically and morally you should feel better too.
fish on...
Posted Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:06 pm
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I agree to an extent... there is no damage to be done when there are no eggs in the nest and when bass are "on the nest" they don't actually sit on the nest they cruse around and protect it with the male bass but are still very reluctant to bite. About Ontario being on the leader board of small mouth bass take into account you are farther north than most everybody who have good smally fishing its not the protection, its the area. About American anglers fishing all species year round that also depends on the state you are in... some states have seasons on bass and some like ohio don't. Facts! I am not trying to argue I am just stating my facts and proving you wrong lol... I personally practice catch and release although many people around me don't witch is a big pet-peave of mine especially during spawning season. I don't regret what i do because i know its not causing any amount more of damage than would already be inflicted catching any fish at any time... i think the bass nest and eggs have to be more worried about cannibalism and hungry bluegill over me. sorry if i am talking to you like a little kid... when i get into "teacher preacher mode" i sound like a jerk to people who already know what i am talking about.
Save me a seat!
Posted Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:52 pm
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scented baits..gulp.berkley what-have you.....imitate a bait...not unlike a metal or plastic lure...
if you get the chance or want to study proteins...especially as it relates to trout.....trout have an amazing ability to recall a stream they spawned in by scent.......and blood meal proteins...have a triggering mech in them that make trout snap at or strike those baits..(studies on trout killing rival prodgeny for example) ..the higher the protein content of course-
the more effective...
(think higher blood to alcohol rate for example...do you prefer 3.2 beer or does your system prefer {strong beer}.. a bit stronger)...whats interesting is the packaging is in effect...eye candy to the consumer and not the prey specie..
.many times pro bass anglers use very sharp surgical scissors to manipulate/slice the baits tail into a tenticle pattern........enhancing not only the scent dispersing but the visual..yet the very bait sold to the end user -ie- the consumer......was nothing more than what we as fisherman expected to see......and thats no fish tale........tw
if you get the chance or want to study proteins...especially as it relates to trout.....trout have an amazing ability to recall a stream they spawned in by scent.......and blood meal proteins...have a triggering mech in them that make trout snap at or strike those baits..(studies on trout killing rival prodgeny for example) ..the higher the protein content of course-
the more effective...
(think higher blood to alcohol rate for example...do you prefer 3.2 beer or does your system prefer {strong beer}.. a bit stronger)...whats interesting is the packaging is in effect...eye candy to the consumer and not the prey specie..
.many times pro bass anglers use very sharp surgical scissors to manipulate/slice the baits tail into a tenticle pattern........enhancing not only the scent dispersing but the visual..yet the very bait sold to the end user -ie- the consumer......was nothing more than what we as fisherman expected to see......and thats no fish tale........tw
trout whisperer
Posted Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:34 pm
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whatever dave you dont know!! you are doing damage....I have friends who are retired conservation officers and friend who are fish biologists you are neitherfor one instead of feeding you just caused the fish too exert energy it needs for other purposes then in turn needs to eat but wont for it has been hooked and injured sore lips means maybe not eating for a while thats if you didnt hurt its gills and or swallow it ..thats just 1 scenario i could go on and on but Ontario is king we barely stock lakes and the echo system takes care of itself and we are usually there for most any species we have available so think whatever makes you feel better..I and many know the reality of it all.... and by they way they do not protect the nest only the male does and the female is the 1st gone ...
fish on...
Posted Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:04 pm
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i respect the facts that you are putting out! i didn't consider accedents like hook swallowing...ect but do female bass really feed much during the spawn, i mean obviously they do but how often? so far i have only seen reaction bites not out of hunger (this is a serious question not sarcastic at all)? and if the female doesn't protect the nest why does it "sit on the nest"? (once again a serious question i am not trying to induce argument) ask your buddies that i would like to know from a more reliable source than "Ohio Game and Fish magazine" and google lol.
Save me a seat!
Posted Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:16 pm
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Igor, cmon man. No one wants to harrass a pregnant woman. Are you saying that you don't mind harrassing any other women. Im sure everyone has to be aware that fishing in any form will damage fish and population, spawning or not. Ethics and morality are very gray areas in fishing, especially in catch and release only. I am not saying that your points are not true or that fishermen should target bass beds. That is a choice to be made by an individual. Honestly, I don't feel that great about it but I do participate if the fish are a chance at my personal trophy. I am glad there are people talking about the subject. Maybe you would feel better ethically and morally if you didn't put a hook or six in any fish, any time.
Jesse
Posted Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:57 am
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I would have a hard time claiming that my personal best was a Bass that came off a Bed. We dont fish Walleye or Musky during the spawn so why would we want to fish Bass at that time.
Posted Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:24 pm
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i agree with igor never..never fish beds that insures that our kids will have the same fun as we do as for gulp like them but not durable
Posted Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:47 am
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You could cast a cigerette butt to a nesting Bass and it will hit it, not just once but again and a again im sure, how much of a challenge is that, and I am sure everytime you pull a fish off its bed the preditors move in, minnows, crawfish and so on. I will not take guests fishing for Bass during this time and we also move our weekly camp shorelunch during the spawn as the beach we normally use is full of Beds at that time. Simply put it is not good practice and is no challenge whatsoever.
Posted Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:13 pm
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All current studies from B.A.S.S. and other sources show no effect whatsoever by fishing for spawning bass. In regards to getting a bass to hit a cigarette butt?? LOL Let me know where you fish. Some bedding bass NEVER strike no matter how hard you try that is why certain bass are targeted during tournaments and others are just ignored. It is like anything else you do. Armed with the proper knowlege you can preserve any fishery or destroy it. You have to be informed enough to know what is right in each individual case. I can show you at least 20 studies confirming what i say. Even Doug Hannon will tell you the same thing.
As to Berkley Gulp. It is really fantastic. It doesnt matter what they cost it doesnt even compare to live bait if look at it that way. IAnd why are you using it anyway?? The cost compared to the results is negligible. Take a look at my gallery here and the bass from Delaware with the purple bait hanging from its mouth is a Berkley Gulp Sinking minnow. I caught two bass on it in a week here that went 7 and 9 pounds and in Delaware that is saying something.
Among anglers, there is perhaps no more controversial topic than whether or not, as conservationists, we ought to fish for bass while they are spawning. Battle lines on this issue were drawn in the sand long ago – some northern laws that prohibit it date back to the 1800s – with no end to the argument in sight.
Those against fishing for bass during the spawn contend that it disrupts the breeding cycle, resulting in fewer fish in the future. However, studies indicate that fishing during the spawn, even if specifically for trophies, does not appear to harm the bass populations. Obviously, taking a spawn-ready female from the bed will, if she dies, reduce the numbers of young bass produced. But bass produce thousands of spawn every year, leaving the surplus millions of juvenile fish to become food for other species – so numbers aren’t an issue. Further research has shown that if a big female hasn't spawned yet and is released in good shape, then it is likely she will spawn.
Contrary to some beliefs, a bedding bass is not easy to catch, particularly the big females. It is true that the small males are often aggressive in their guardian duties, but the trophy fish is very difficult to catch. To catch fish during this time of year, I use two methods, depending on whether or not the water is clear enough to see the beds.
If the water is reasonably clear, I look for hard-bottomed coves, a place where the bottom will be mostly pea gravel and chunk rock. Once there, I get on the deck of my boat and watch for the mostly round nests, areas that have been cleared off by bass fanning their tails. Once I spot a nest, I either look for a bass or its shadow. Once I spot the fish – be it a small male or a large female – I use my spinning reel, spooled with 10-pound Berkley Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon line (especially if the fish have already been pressured) or a casting reel spooled with 17- or 20-pound 100% Fluorocarbon, and cast a white, Texas-rigged Berkley PowerBait Flippin’ Tube, with the hook barely piercing the skin of the bait.
I position my boat far enough away from the nest so as to not spook the bass, but close enough that I can still see what is going on. After casting just beyond the nest (if the fish hasn’t already gone for the bait), I hop the tube into the nest, working it through the nest area searching for the “sweet spot.” The sweet spot – for some unknown reason – is an area of the nest that, when a bait reaches it, will cause the fish to attack. It may take several minutes or several hours to get the bass to react, but when it does, it will turn itself sideways and scoop the bait off the bottom in an effort to remove the intruder from the nest – not always to eat it. Because the hook is barely in the bait, it will be easier to set the hook.
If the first approach doesn’t work, a like to turn to a dark colored Berkley Gulp! Lizard and try the same tactics. However, unlike the white tube, the dark lizard is harder to see in the water. If the water is too murky to see the nests, try Carolina rigging in the shallows. And if you’re after smallmouth bass, look for underwater cover to hold bedding fish.
Fishing the spawn can be fun, difficult and rewarding all at the same time. Just be sure to practice catch and release so that other anglers will have the opportunity to enjoy the fishing, too.
Tight lines, Steve
As to Berkley Gulp. It is really fantastic. It doesnt matter what they cost it doesnt even compare to live bait if look at it that way. IAnd why are you using it anyway?? The cost compared to the results is negligible. Take a look at my gallery here and the bass from Delaware with the purple bait hanging from its mouth is a Berkley Gulp Sinking minnow. I caught two bass on it in a week here that went 7 and 9 pounds and in Delaware that is saying something.
Among anglers, there is perhaps no more controversial topic than whether or not, as conservationists, we ought to fish for bass while they are spawning. Battle lines on this issue were drawn in the sand long ago – some northern laws that prohibit it date back to the 1800s – with no end to the argument in sight.
Those against fishing for bass during the spawn contend that it disrupts the breeding cycle, resulting in fewer fish in the future. However, studies indicate that fishing during the spawn, even if specifically for trophies, does not appear to harm the bass populations. Obviously, taking a spawn-ready female from the bed will, if she dies, reduce the numbers of young bass produced. But bass produce thousands of spawn every year, leaving the surplus millions of juvenile fish to become food for other species – so numbers aren’t an issue. Further research has shown that if a big female hasn't spawned yet and is released in good shape, then it is likely she will spawn.
Contrary to some beliefs, a bedding bass is not easy to catch, particularly the big females. It is true that the small males are often aggressive in their guardian duties, but the trophy fish is very difficult to catch. To catch fish during this time of year, I use two methods, depending on whether or not the water is clear enough to see the beds.
If the water is reasonably clear, I look for hard-bottomed coves, a place where the bottom will be mostly pea gravel and chunk rock. Once there, I get on the deck of my boat and watch for the mostly round nests, areas that have been cleared off by bass fanning their tails. Once I spot a nest, I either look for a bass or its shadow. Once I spot the fish – be it a small male or a large female – I use my spinning reel, spooled with 10-pound Berkley Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon line (especially if the fish have already been pressured) or a casting reel spooled with 17- or 20-pound 100% Fluorocarbon, and cast a white, Texas-rigged Berkley PowerBait Flippin’ Tube, with the hook barely piercing the skin of the bait.
I position my boat far enough away from the nest so as to not spook the bass, but close enough that I can still see what is going on. After casting just beyond the nest (if the fish hasn’t already gone for the bait), I hop the tube into the nest, working it through the nest area searching for the “sweet spot.” The sweet spot – for some unknown reason – is an area of the nest that, when a bait reaches it, will cause the fish to attack. It may take several minutes or several hours to get the bass to react, but when it does, it will turn itself sideways and scoop the bait off the bottom in an effort to remove the intruder from the nest – not always to eat it. Because the hook is barely in the bait, it will be easier to set the hook.
If the first approach doesn’t work, a like to turn to a dark colored Berkley Gulp! Lizard and try the same tactics. However, unlike the white tube, the dark lizard is harder to see in the water. If the water is too murky to see the nests, try Carolina rigging in the shallows. And if you’re after smallmouth bass, look for underwater cover to hold bedding fish.
Fishing the spawn can be fun, difficult and rewarding all at the same time. Just be sure to practice catch and release so that other anglers will have the opportunity to enjoy the fishing, too.
Tight lines, Steve
Northeast Bass Fishing For Trophy Bass
Posted Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:50 pm
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Some more info for you all to chew on.
This is obviously the time of year throughout most of the black bass range in North America that many anglers wrestle with the dilemma of whether they should pursue bass on the spawning grounds, or actually on the spawning beds. This is a two-part dilemma — biological and ethical.
The biological question usually includes the question "will bed-fishing damage the overall long-term quality of the bass population." The ethical side of the dilemma exists because there are few definitive answers to the biological question, plus some anglers believe it is "unfair" to take bass when they are more vulnerable during the prespawn and nest-guarding cycles.
In a few states and Canadian Provinces, the fishery regulations prohibit fishing for bass during closed seasons. These seasons are designed to protect bass during most of the spawning period. This diminishes the "ethical" dilemma when the state affirms the "legal" time to fish for bass.
But, what about the biology? There is no clear-cut research that helps us with the biological dilemma. In fact, some of the best work confuses anglers more than it helps them because habitat, water quality, water temperature, growing seasons, bass density, bass competitors, angling pressure and angler harvest vary greatly across the biological range of black bass in North America.
So, let's look at the issue intuitively, the way most anglers approach it. First, catch-and-release is a generally practiced and accepted way of life for most bass anglers. Tournament studies and bass population research have both clearly demonstrated that bass caught and released by anglers have an extremely high probability of survival. Bass can be recycled! If you catch bass in the mouth, which is most likely when using artificial lures, and handle the fish very carefully, it will be OK if you release it after taking it from a spawning bed. That clarifies the question of biological impact to the vulnerable adult bass.
What about the spawn? If you hassle an egg-bearing female, will she spawn? Did you damage the eggs? How much predation will occur on fertilized eggs in the bed, or on fry left unguarded when the defending male bass is caught? How many fry must survive to sustain a good bass population?
Intuition! If each adult bass in a population produces only one offspring to replace it, the population is sustained. Therefore, whether a 2-pound bass is 1 year old or 5 years old, enough spawn, fry, fingerlings and juveniles must survive to be there to replace a deceased 2-pounder. There is a very large "surplus" of fry produced in a given bass population. If your lake now has enough adult bass to provide satisfying angling, and your lake has been subjected to many years of the same level of angling pressure and spawning-bed fishing that it now has, then intuitively, you can conclude that the bed-fishing has not hurt your lake.
On the other hand, some studies in northern waters, where bass grow slower and replacement takes longer, have shown that nest-guarding male bass return slowly to the nest after being caught and released. Therefore, intensive predation can occur on eggs and/or fry. The problem is, there are no follow-up studies to tell us what that ultimately means to the future adult bass populations. In other words, this study doesn't answer the questions about the biological dilemma that we need answered.
More intuition! If removal of nest-guarding male bass results in nest damage, and prespawn fishing in a given water impacts a high proportion of male bass on the beds, then over a period of years this could have negative impact on numbers of adult bass in the population.
The problem is these studies can't predict at what threshold of angling pressure, or what proportion of the defending males must be caught before negative impacts occur. That's exactly why fishery managers in some northern states and Canadian Provinces have become nervous and conservative about bed-fishing. They are witnessing increased interest in bass fishing pressure, and they don't have the answers to the biological questions.
Thus, the ethical dilemma of bed-fishing continues — with less concern in productive midwestern and southern bass waters where bass fishing over spawning fish has been going on for many bass generations and bass numbers remain good, but with legitimate concern in the north, east and in less productive waters where there is not enough hard information to satisfy either biologists or anglers.
My advice is that if you must make this choice and are uncomfortable with the personal responsibility, then contact your state fishery agency to get as much information as you can. As for those of you who just feel it is "wrong" to fish for spawning bass, that's OK, too. But, make sure you clarify whether your concern is for ethical or biological reasons before you criticize others who do fish for spawning bass. You are entitled to ethical beliefs, but some of the biological arguments against bed-fishing can definitely be challenged.
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/general/columns/story?columnist=guest_columnist&page=b_col_bt_shupp_0303
This is obviously the time of year throughout most of the black bass range in North America that many anglers wrestle with the dilemma of whether they should pursue bass on the spawning grounds, or actually on the spawning beds. This is a two-part dilemma — biological and ethical.
The biological question usually includes the question "will bed-fishing damage the overall long-term quality of the bass population." The ethical side of the dilemma exists because there are few definitive answers to the biological question, plus some anglers believe it is "unfair" to take bass when they are more vulnerable during the prespawn and nest-guarding cycles.
In a few states and Canadian Provinces, the fishery regulations prohibit fishing for bass during closed seasons. These seasons are designed to protect bass during most of the spawning period. This diminishes the "ethical" dilemma when the state affirms the "legal" time to fish for bass.
But, what about the biology? There is no clear-cut research that helps us with the biological dilemma. In fact, some of the best work confuses anglers more than it helps them because habitat, water quality, water temperature, growing seasons, bass density, bass competitors, angling pressure and angler harvest vary greatly across the biological range of black bass in North America.
So, let's look at the issue intuitively, the way most anglers approach it. First, catch-and-release is a generally practiced and accepted way of life for most bass anglers. Tournament studies and bass population research have both clearly demonstrated that bass caught and released by anglers have an extremely high probability of survival. Bass can be recycled! If you catch bass in the mouth, which is most likely when using artificial lures, and handle the fish very carefully, it will be OK if you release it after taking it from a spawning bed. That clarifies the question of biological impact to the vulnerable adult bass.
What about the spawn? If you hassle an egg-bearing female, will she spawn? Did you damage the eggs? How much predation will occur on fertilized eggs in the bed, or on fry left unguarded when the defending male bass is caught? How many fry must survive to sustain a good bass population?
Intuition! If each adult bass in a population produces only one offspring to replace it, the population is sustained. Therefore, whether a 2-pound bass is 1 year old or 5 years old, enough spawn, fry, fingerlings and juveniles must survive to be there to replace a deceased 2-pounder. There is a very large "surplus" of fry produced in a given bass population. If your lake now has enough adult bass to provide satisfying angling, and your lake has been subjected to many years of the same level of angling pressure and spawning-bed fishing that it now has, then intuitively, you can conclude that the bed-fishing has not hurt your lake.
On the other hand, some studies in northern waters, where bass grow slower and replacement takes longer, have shown that nest-guarding male bass return slowly to the nest after being caught and released. Therefore, intensive predation can occur on eggs and/or fry. The problem is, there are no follow-up studies to tell us what that ultimately means to the future adult bass populations. In other words, this study doesn't answer the questions about the biological dilemma that we need answered.
More intuition! If removal of nest-guarding male bass results in nest damage, and prespawn fishing in a given water impacts a high proportion of male bass on the beds, then over a period of years this could have negative impact on numbers of adult bass in the population.
The problem is these studies can't predict at what threshold of angling pressure, or what proportion of the defending males must be caught before negative impacts occur. That's exactly why fishery managers in some northern states and Canadian Provinces have become nervous and conservative about bed-fishing. They are witnessing increased interest in bass fishing pressure, and they don't have the answers to the biological questions.
Thus, the ethical dilemma of bed-fishing continues — with less concern in productive midwestern and southern bass waters where bass fishing over spawning fish has been going on for many bass generations and bass numbers remain good, but with legitimate concern in the north, east and in less productive waters where there is not enough hard information to satisfy either biologists or anglers.
My advice is that if you must make this choice and are uncomfortable with the personal responsibility, then contact your state fishery agency to get as much information as you can. As for those of you who just feel it is "wrong" to fish for spawning bass, that's OK, too. But, make sure you clarify whether your concern is for ethical or biological reasons before you criticize others who do fish for spawning bass. You are entitled to ethical beliefs, but some of the biological arguments against bed-fishing can definitely be challenged.
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/general/columns/story?columnist=guest_columnist&page=b_col_bt_shupp_0303
Northeast Bass Fishing For Trophy Bass
Posted Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:24 am
Re: Re: Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
For me it is simple. I live on a lake with multiple species so when the Smallies are doing their thing I can fish for Perch or Northerns or Walleye. I choose not to fish the beds based on what I know and that is that no one seems to know forsure and that is good enough reason for me.
Posted Mon May 25, 2009 7:36 pm
Re: Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
In 5 years of serious angling, I haven't had a bedded bass hit squat! I simply don't even try anymore.
floyd
Posted Mon Sep 7, 2009 8:46 pm
Re: Re: Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
Posted Mon May 25, 2009 8:10 pm
Re: Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
I have had a snook pass up my live shrimp and inhale my buddy's gulp shrimp! they work.If you could see the thousands of bass in the Everglades right now because of the low water ,and these are heavily fished areas that have been hosting tournements for 30 years through including spawning season , mother nature has ways to deal with it!
Thumper!! S papp
Posted Wed Sep 9, 2009 8:01 am
Re: Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
Just think about it, the female lays the eggs and she's gone, is the male that takes care of the eggs and by instinct the male will protect the eggs from predatory critters like specialy CRAFISH which their favorite meal is eggs so bass will strike just about anything that comes near the eggs specially crawfish and as for the female she wonders through the waters looking for food to eat so now try crawfish during spawn season live prefferbly and let me know mr delaware trophy dude and as for igor dude there is plenty of fish to catch and keep for one you catch there's thousands more born from the one you caught, stop your paranodia its gonna b ok dude, and hey david your a smart little fella I'm surprised igor argues with a kid like you keep up your good fish studies we need that.
ray
Posted Wed Sep 9, 2009 7:16 pm
Re: Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
wow - 2 years and noone gave you the correct answer. I am speaking of the 3" shad on a drop shot rig for smallies in current. I just let my 3/8 oz weight bounce below the hook on a 6 - 8" tag line, bump on the rocky bottomes, and the vibration goes right through that lil bait - the extreme softness allows that vibration and tons of movement to permeate the immediate area. Any bass near by WILL investigate. This one smell seals the deal for the instinctive inhale.
You are being misled if you dont believe fish can smell. Go dip your bait in one drop of gas and see how many fish you catch ??? So the opposite is true, Berkley found a scent and formula that probably exploded their prototype fish catches. Boy I wish I was on the team that got to document their experiments vs a placebo !! Every one of them $%^kers got a big promotion for their work.
ALL I know is that they work, and they outfish live bait for me, hand pours and any other bait I put on my hook down there. Its the difference between a 5 fish day and a 30 fish day for me - and the big girls arent spooked so my weights go from a 11 lb day to an 18 - 21 lb day.
Largies are the same for shaky head worms and texas rigged flukes. They are fish catchers.
Mojo
You are being misled if you dont believe fish can smell. Go dip your bait in one drop of gas and see how many fish you catch ??? So the opposite is true, Berkley found a scent and formula that probably exploded their prototype fish catches. Boy I wish I was on the team that got to document their experiments vs a placebo !! Every one of them $%^kers got a big promotion for their work.
ALL I know is that they work, and they outfish live bait for me, hand pours and any other bait I put on my hook down there. Its the difference between a 5 fish day and a 30 fish day for me - and the big girls arent spooked so my weights go from a 11 lb day to an 18 - 21 lb day.
Largies are the same for shaky head worms and texas rigged flukes. They are fish catchers.
Mojo
Mojo Rollin
Posted Wed Sep 9, 2009 7:38 pm
Re: Why Is Gulp better than a normal plastic worm?
And on the bed fishing topic, follow Delaware dude, he is close. I'll tell EVERY one of you that unless you go to your respective state and ask the DNR to provide the report they did on bed fishing, and fish travel patterns ( and every one of them has one that they used to establish their laws), then just stop writing about something you dont understand.
In Michigan we had a problem with these two lakes that were connected by a river, Mitchell and Cadillac. Seems folks wanted to stop tournament fishing because they felt one lake lost all their smallies due to the contant harvesting and releasing the fish at a ramp on the other lake, especially during spawn. So Michigan tagged an entire tournament and monitored their movement. Anyone guess what happened ?
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The big fish (4 and 5 lb) migrated over 2 miles in a day and were back ON THEIR BEDS the next day. The smaller 2 and 3 lb fish staged in areas, some stayed in the one lake, many returned to the first lake they were caught, but not alot of those fish made it to their beds.
C & R has done more for the species than any single human act so keep up the Catch and Release !!!!!!
PS: Catching a bedded fish for smallies is like shooting fish in a barrel whereas largies are a COMPLETE science that takes years (or a good boater to teach you) to perfect. Ive caught a bedding smallie three times in a row and watched him go right back to their beds. They are fun. But largies are a stubborn cus if they are aware of your presence. Keep the sun to your back and hope the wind puts a chop on the water for you.
In Michigan we had a problem with these two lakes that were connected by a river, Mitchell and Cadillac. Seems folks wanted to stop tournament fishing because they felt one lake lost all their smallies due to the contant harvesting and releasing the fish at a ramp on the other lake, especially during spawn. So Michigan tagged an entire tournament and monitored their movement. Anyone guess what happened ?
.
.
.
.
.
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The big fish (4 and 5 lb) migrated over 2 miles in a day and were back ON THEIR BEDS the next day. The smaller 2 and 3 lb fish staged in areas, some stayed in the one lake, many returned to the first lake they were caught, but not alot of those fish made it to their beds.
C & R has done more for the species than any single human act so keep up the Catch and Release !!!!!!
PS: Catching a bedded fish for smallies is like shooting fish in a barrel whereas largies are a COMPLETE science that takes years (or a good boater to teach you) to perfect. Ive caught a bedding smallie three times in a row and watched him go right back to their beds. They are fun. But largies are a stubborn cus if they are aware of your presence. Keep the sun to your back and hope the wind puts a chop on the water for you.
Mojo Rollin







































