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ALABAMA RIG

Delawarebass
Delawarebass

Delaware,US

Posted Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:53 am
ALABAMA RIG
I dont know about any of you guys in Canada but the rest of the country is going wild over this so what do you think? Do you know about this? http://www.thebasscollege.com/apps/forums/topics/show/6608070-the-alabama-rig

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LooseDragMcgoo
LooseDragMcgoo

Ontario,CA

Posted Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:48 pm
Re: ALABAMA RIG
looks good just have to check your regs with amount of hooks allowed could get caught on that end of things.... Very smart though the guy that invented it prolly going to make a killing.

Better to be loose then tight!

Gmoney
Gmoney

Texas,US

Posted Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:56 am
Re: ALABAMA RIG
Cool version of a Umbrella rig.. Here in Texas, locals are making their own versions and cashing in...They make 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 wire rigs to meet everyones states regulations. Everyone down here is going bonkers over them... If I were in a State, Provence, that only allowed 2, or 3 hooks-whatever, then I would still try the rig -just rig the amount of baits allowed with hooks, use the spare locations hookless- Teasers....Use a Hitchiker...Schooling Bass - WATCHOUT!

Chocolate Bayou/ Lake Conroe

Delawarebass
Delawarebass

Delaware,US

Posted Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:03 pm
Re: Re: ALABAMA RIG
We have the new ABT rig, which is what you are talking about. They have extra wires of different lengths as well, so you can make them 4 inch 5 7 etc as well as have just 2 baits 3 5 etc Very cool just threw it. Take a look > http://www.thebasscollege.com/apps/videos/videos/show/15822492-abt-legal-alabama-rig

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freshwaterphi
freshwaterphi

Quebec,CA

Posted Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:21 pm
Re: ALABAMA RIG
The question is if it's legally considered a lure or a rig. Here in Quebec, a lure is considered equvalent to 1 hook, even if it has multiple treble hooks on it.

I can imagine this rig being deadly on schooling fish.

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Delawarebass
Delawarebass

Delaware,US

Posted Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:24 pm
Re: ALABAMA RIG
We have 20 different models on sale with free shipping and free baits starting at less than $14.00
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/catpage-TWNEWS06.html?from=detroph

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tweinz
tweinz

Ontario,CA

Posted Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:04 pm
Re: ALABAMA RIG
Personally I don't really like the idea. It kinda takes the sport out of fishing. It would be like hunting waterfowl or deer with a machine gun. I prefer a more conventional man vs nature challenge. This day in age we live in a lazy society, people want everything made easy. Fishing fits in this as well, with fish finders, gps, fishing aps, and all the other little gadgets. what's next, a ten foot net to drag behind the boat.

TWEINZ--theres no other KEINZ

Catching
Catching

Florida,US

Posted Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:48 pm
Re: ALABAMA RIG
Fun fishing maybe but I fish a lot of heavy cover where this would be useless, should be banned in any and all Tournaments

"Better to be Lucky than Good"

freshwaterphi
freshwaterphi

Quebec,CA

Posted Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:14 pm
Re: ALABAMA RIG
Already been banned from Bassmasters Elite series, still legal in other Bassmasters and FLW...

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Gmoney
Gmoney

Texas,US

Posted Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:08 pm
Re: ALABAMA RIG
Its just another tool in the shed; I would imagine that not too many guys are throwing these into cover......Open, deep water patterns (SCHOOLING FISH)=DEADLY! Ingenious, if you ask me. Some Bassnut just downsized the rig. Nothing new about it, Umbrella rigs have been around forever...A passing fad IMHO... Click for full image

http://www.bountyfishing.com/members/5f0453f78909173a7ce2eb874d2a7f52/photo/cd8d
n5260c8131ca7aeea5d41796d1a0a/640x480/bama-riggin.jpg



Chocolate Bayou/ Lake Conroe

Delawarebass
Delawarebass

Delaware,US

Posted Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:13 pm
Re: ALABAMA RIG
Here is what the FLW and THE BASS COLLEGE and other professional anglers with some common sense think about it, > http://www.thebasscollege.com/apps/forums/topics/show/7130997-flw-on-the-alabama-rig-1-2012

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Delawarebass
Delawarebass

Delaware,US

Posted Sat May 5, 2012 6:37 am
Re: ALABAMA RIG
WFN ON THE ALABAMA RIG
Ethics and The Alabama Rig
Posted On January 26, 2012 WFN


Like a lot of bass anglers, I was interested to read the other day that the Bassmaster Elite Series Rules Committee has amended the regulations for anglers fishing in the upcoming Bassmaster Classic and Elite Series, making it clear that only a single lure can be used during practice and tournament competition.

The move is in obvious response to Paul Elias' stunning victory at the recent 2011 FLW event on Lake Guntersville, when he literally walked away from the rest of the field, thanks to the fact he was the only angler using the until-then, unknown Alabama Rig, for the entire tournament.

Since Elias won the event, it is fair to say that demand for the umbrella rig has shot through the roof. Indeed, a friend who recently returned from a trip to Guntersville reported that, "every angler I saw was throwing an Alabama Rig."


The move by the Bassmaster folks has certainly sparked plenty of healthy debate, and no shortage of e-mails, asking what I thought of the rule change.

So, let me carefully put my toe into the water and offer a few thoughts.

First, if the one-rod, one-line, one-lure rule is supported by the majority of anglers fishing the Bassmaster Elite series, as it seems to be, then that is the way it should be. It is absolutely no different, in my mind, from the rule the Bassmaster folks have on the books restricting tournament anglers from using the main motor to assist in manipulating the bait.

So, in addition to not being able to "troll", anglers are also now restricted from throwing tandem fluke-rigs or two top water frogs as previously has been the case.

Ditto, using a jig instead of a weight to anchor a drop-shot rig.

Which brings us to the question of ethics and whether or not the Alabama - and similar rigs - should be banned outright.

The easiest way to answer that question, I think, is to ask yourself this: "If banning the Alabama rig is the solution, what is the problem?"

Based on Elias' showing at Guntersville, many anglers are suggesting it is a matter of conservation. That the rig is so effective, there won't be any fish left in the lakes.

When I read and heard that argument, I couldn't help thinking back, far too many years than I wanted, to when the first buzzbaits appeared on the scene. It was impossible back then not to catch fish throwing the crazy things. But, then the action, as so often happens, waned.

So many anglers threw so many buzzbaits that the fish were bombarded and became conditioned to them. And while buzzbaits remain a good option when conditions are "right", I have to scratch my head to recall a recent major tournament that was won by an angler throwing a buzzbait.

Ditto, Sluggos.

I'll never forget when Sluggo's first appeared and Bob and Wayne Izumi and I had them a year or so in advance of most other anglers. Bob and I were practicing for a big event back then, following several other boats down a shoreline. No matter where we threw those silly Sluggos, a bass scooted from out of nowhere, grabbed onto the soft plastic bait and would not let go of it.

It was silly.

A year or so later, I went down and fished the Bassmaster Top 100 event on Minnesota's Lake Minnetonka and lead the co-angler side on Day 1 and 2, eventually finishing third. I practiced for that event one day with buddy and Connecticut bass pro Terry Backsay. Terry had made a big name for himself in his rookie season, making it to the Bassmaster Classic and placing high in nearly every event he fished, throwing Sluggos almost exclusively.

I'll never forget going down one row of docks on Minnetonka in practice, throwing Sluggos, and it was brutal because the bass wouldn't let go of Terry's and my bait. We'd pitch the soft plastic lure into a boat slip, let it settle to the bottom, tighten up on the line and there would be a bass hanging onto it more times than not. We had our hooks bent back so we didn't stick any of the fish in practice, and many times we'd drag the bass right to the side of the boat before it finally let go. Several times, the fish swallowed the baits!

Yet, Sluggo's too, quickly became passé.

Indeed, when was the last time a major tournament was won by an angler throwing a Sluggo? It is still a great lure, but ......

My sense is we're going to see the same thing happen with the Alabama rig, especially since so many anglers are going to be throwing the rigs this season. Indeed, it will be fascinating to see how long it takes, before the shine starts to tarnish.

Something else to think about: in Ontario and most Canadian provinces you're allowed to have four (4) hook points on your main line, a treble hook counting as one "hook point".

This means it is legal for anglers to use "pickerel rigs" sporting four single hooks, each baited with a live minnow, leech, or nightcrawler. So, what is it more "ethical" or "unethical" - four live baits dangling from a single line, or four soft plastic lures?

Indeed, gun advocates are fond of suggesting that, "guns don't kill people, other people kill people". And so it is with fishing lures.

I mean, how can catching and releasing a bass on an Alabama rig be called "unethical", while catching and killing the fish on a lure sporting a single hook is somehow "right"?

Hmmmm .......

To cloud the "ethical issue" even further, the Bassmaster folks still use the outdated, "dry" weigh in method, as opposed to the "water weigh-in" system, that all credible science shows to be much more fish friendly.

Indeed, the ground breaking research carried out by fish physiologists like Dr. Bruce Tufts of Queen's University clearly shows that taking fish out of water and weighing them in a dry basket to be extremely stressful, even lethal. Yet, the dry system is the method Bassmaster continues to employ.

Which means, you can't use an Alabama rig to catch a fish in the Bassmaster Classic or any of the Bassmaster Elite Series events that use the outdated, antiquated, dry basket weigh-in procedure. But, you can use the Alabama rig in FLW events that employ the state-of-the-art, fish friendly, water weight in system.

Go figure.

But, that is the problem with ethics. They keep getting in the way!

RICK CLUNN ON THE ALABAMA RIG

“The newest technique, the umbrella/Ala. rig, certainly has created a lot of conversation both ways. It reminds me of the hysteria when the first graph recorders appeared. The premature hysteria was trying to ban it at all levels. Minnesota said it would clean their many lakes of fish. Jet boats and bed fishing created similar premature responses. One tournament organization banned aluminum jet boats because it might hurt the sale of their $60,000 dollar rigs.



“All new techniques deserve constructive criticism from a scientific viewpoint, not a hysterical one. I admit I was not initially in favor of bed fishing because I was not very good at it and I leaned on the premature assumption that if everyone started doing it, it would hurt the resource. To this date that has not proved to be a valid concern.



“Legally, most of the laws were made (eons) ago to restrict intentional snaggin’ of other species like salmon. Will trotlines be banned next?

“The only current reality I see is that it has created tremendous interest in fishing at a time of year that there is little. People are going fishing at a time that they would normally be staying at home. It has created a tremendous demand for the Industry to create more and newer product.


“All the real things that are happening I see as positives. Ethically we need to wait and watch and not jump to conclusions. There are no magical lures if you do not know where to fish them. If someone starts catching limits out of their toilets I will then be worried. When people catch more fish, people fish more. Isn’t that what we should all be promoting?


“Until we have sufficient data to rule otherwise … enjoy!!!!”
RICK CLUNN



‎24.Jan.2012 by Jay Yelas

The Alabama Rig is all the rage now in the sport of professional bass fishing. In my 23 years as a pro, I have never seen a new bait create such excitement – or catch as many bass. I believe the reason it has been so successful this past fall and winter is the fact that it is something new the bass haven’t seen before. I operate under the assumption that in heavily-fished public lakes, every bass has been caught before, at least once. However, every time it has been caught, it has always been on one lure.


Whether it was caught on a spinnerbait, worm, jig, topwater or whatever, it was just one lure. A bass has never been stung by a hook when chasing into a school of baitfish. Basically what I am saying is that bass have learned to count to one. The Alabama Rig is just a new, innovative way to fool a bass once again. I look forward to seeing what other new bait innovations may come along now that this “multi-bait” idea is out of the box. I fish my Alabama Rig with Berkley Hollow Belly swimbaits, but maybe someone will create a way to fish five crankbaits, jigs or worms at one time. Who knows?



I know there is more than a little controversy about the Alabama Rig, but I think it is the best thing that has happened to our sport in a long time. The reason is simple: we all catch way more bass than we used to. And it’s fun – something new to make a day on the lake more enjoyable. If those are the reasons you go fishing, to have fun and catch fish, then the Alabama Rig is for you. I understand why some pros want it banned. They don’t go fishing to have fun; they fish to make money. They are masters of the bass fishing world as we have known it: the single-lure world. The Alabama Rig is a game changer, and when you've got the bass world by the tail you don't want things to change.



However, you can’t stop innovation. It is the trademark of free capitalist markets. Free markets breed innovation that breed a better life. Innovation has made America what it is today. Beginning with the Industrial Revolution and continuing through today's Technological Revolution, innovation is what has made America a world leader. I don't suppose any Alabama Rig opponents want to trade in their iPhone for their old cell phone, or go back to land lines? The same should be true when it comes to fishing lures. Innovation simply makes life better!

There remains no reason to not embrace new fishing-lure innovations; they have always been a part of our sport. The exception, of course, is if they were in some way harmful to our fisheries. However, there is no scientific evidence that the Alabama Rig is harmful to fish. Most biologists consider soft plastic worms more harmful because bass swallow them. Alabama Rigs don’t gill-hook fish either, the way crankbaits sometimes do.


The bass fishing world has been hit by the greatest lure innovation in our lifetime. I can't wait for this new FLW Tour season. I'm hooking Berkley Hollow Bellys on my Alabama Rig and I can't wait to see what more I can learn about fishing in 2012.



Jay and I have been friends for a while He used to be on my radio show every week for years and I talked to him on the phone and ate dinner with him at the Classic in Pittsburg among other things. This attitude is just one of the things I like about Jay. Thank God some people have some common sense is all I have to say.

Steve Owner/CEO The Bass College

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billygoat
billygoat

Florida,US

Posted Mon May 14, 2012 8:17 am
Re: Re: ALABAMA RIG
Nice article. I totally do not think it should be banned. I know other share this opinion. Is is like any other bait in your box, and like you said the shine will wear off. These are great baits in open water and deep water areas,for schooling fish, but in heavey cover and vegetation, they are usless. If not thrown properly, or in the right spots these baits will not work at all! Bill Dance said " If you knew how many fish looked at and examined your bait in the water, but never bit, you'd probably quit fishin! " Keep fishin folks...

Anthony Robinson

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